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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.09 23:37:00 -
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I dub this the day of a thousand lolz ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.09 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kerfira Before you put them back in, please address all the issues raised... a few of which are (in no particular order):
1. Waste of vertical screen space (requiring lots of scrolling) 2. Lack of features compared to this one (colour text etc.) 3. Some forums not visible without being logged in 4. Load times
The new forums felt like a bad prototype... Not something that was ready for deployment in a live environment...
There was plenty of feedback when it was deployed for testing... Why was nothing of it acted on before you put it live? If you don't act on feedback, why put it out for testing in the first place?
there was also a lag issue... I could type faster than the letters would appear on the screen. Theres gotta be an issue there, and its not my connection or Id have the same issue here, which I dont ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.09 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Siiee
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
there was also a lag issue... I could type faster than the letters would appear on the screen. Theres gotta be an issue there, and its not my connection or Id have the same issue here, which I dont
I think someone mentioned that the new forums were essentially streaming your post back to the server as you typed it
Can I suggest we scrap that crap? Deleting typos like that is a pain in the ass ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.09 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin
Originally by: Mag's The question is, how the hell did the new ones get released in such a bad state to begin with?
Agility! You release even if its half done and full of bugs.
Thought that was all MMOs? as the catchphrase seems to be along the order of "how can you tell when MMO stuff is finished given they never end" which is crap too lol ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aamrr CCP, please don't be discouraged. I actually liked the new forums. If you can address the security problems, I look forward to their return. It was nice to actually get to see all the portraits we spent so much time on.
Best of luck fixing the issues.
I love these posts lol where can I buy what youre smoking? ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Echo Mae THAT was the most epic failure by CCP yet. People try to help you and you punish them... just... pathetic if true.
its also a well known CCP tactic.
Again tho; why is kug-ut-sumen's name STILL what 3 years afterward? Filtered on this AND it was filtered on the new forums? Holding a grudge much guys? ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:18:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 00:19:30 Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 00:18:30
Originally by: Akita T Now, to be honest, this move is actually quite nice. Given how things were moving these past few days, I almost fully expected CCP to keep clamoring over the new forums and keep getting them broken and emergency-patched and so on and so forth.
However, it seems they finally saw reason and did the right thing. It probably took quite a bit of ego restraining to make this move back, but it was the right thing to do. So, in a way, some kudos are in order. It could have been much worse.
Yeah we could still BE there. I for one vote they trash the whole idea and keep these forums
Originally by: Titus Phook Well if he passed the new forum as fit for use, and lets face it he's the security guy and it was a security issue, he's probably busy trying to get the egg off his face.
or keep his job
wait, who am I kidding? They dont fire ppl even for good reason. T20's still working there isnt he? ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: gargars Don't take it personally Sreeg, you unfortunately are the one tasked with responding and the 'visible face' (aka target), so pies are gonna be thrown at you right or wrong. Human nature.
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Originally by: Sullen Skoung Hey wait, wheres Sreeg, the mouthpiece? Why isnt he here reassuring us everything's OK etc etc etc
I believe what I did was tell you I'd have the results of an investigation (now 2!) in a blog. That hasn't changed so I hope that makes you feel OK.
Given that theres only one person seemingly willing to stick their face in the pihranna tank, yeah, pretty much ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Sig: If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.
What if its stupid and it doesnt work? ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:44:00 -
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Quote: If Sreegs isn't a web developer then how can you expect him to know whether something is exploitable or not?
when you have a guy touting himself as "The Security Guy" geeee I wonder why ppl are gonna think he has something to do with security? ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 00:50:21
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You have my sincere and personal apology and I also apologize on behalf of CCP.
never thought Id actually see an MO company own up to having released crap rather than pretending it wasnt O.o
Ok, wrangler, you got a bit of respect there. Were this any other company, theyd bull**** us till the end of the game before they admit they did wrong, till after the end in some cases. ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Froosh
tl;dr: you see me quittin', imma be hatin'
so youre saying you dont see any incompetance in CCP?
This is all good in your eyes? Or are you just trolling? cause that tl/dr had some good points to it.
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata
Originally by: Froosh
tl;dr: you see me quittin', imma be hatin'
btw. can i has ur stuffs
I might consider if you say please. 
Hey give it to me I stuck up for you lol
The only good thing about the new forums is it didnt have the bull**** two minute wait crap... ofc it took 2 minutes to do anything... ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 02:09:00 -
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fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs
I think I have a new sig lol ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 02:15:00 -
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I think what we saw WAS the testing phase of the forums ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 02:42:00 -
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lol yeah, theres a great way to look at it, they cant do any worse, things can only get better here on out ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Marconus Orion I bet the forums for DUST 514 and World of Darkness won't have these problems.
*clicks like* ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:20:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 16:26:34
Originally by: TigerXtrm I liked the new forums, I don't know what everyone is complaining about when it comes to the layout or bleeding eyes. Do any of you people go to other websites than this one? This forum is stuck in the bloody 1980's... there is absolutely NO useability at all.
Epic troll
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Better Than You So basically what you are saying is if we used the new forums, our account details were exposed? Including credit card information?
Yeah ok. Between the anomaly nerf and CCP exposing everyone's account details including credit cards, I quit. This is just unacceptable. Great job CCP. I trusted you and this is how you treat your customers.
Time to spend my money on another game that doesn't expose my information.
not quite.
the security holes themselves didn't go past the forum cookies, that don't store any password information. eveGate and account management themselves were secure since the cookies didn't "transport" from one place to another. At most all you could do was impersonating people in the forums.
now, IF someone less scrupulous posted html code in the 6000-character limited post and/or the 500-character limited signature to inject malicious code or any kind of malware, now there's a good chance that you could get your own computer's security compromised.
so yes, the main security hole wasn't the cookies, but the fact that the forums didn't sanitize html code.
better safe than sorry tho, so I changed passwords.
Wasnt there a ISD guy that got said info and went an posted it on SHC and kugu's boards shortly after the T20 debacle? So its not like its never happened here before.
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Miilla So go make your own style sheet.
That only solves (some of) the design issues ù the functionality is still gone.
Design-wise, I could probably live with the way the forums looked with my CSS. Feature-wise, it made little difference and didn't improve on what the forums offered.
Like button withdrawals?
I see your sig got nerfed... bitter much?
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: LtCol Laurentius Edited by: LtCol Laurentius on 10/04/2011 14:48:57
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
We don't discuss administrative actions. At all. Ever. No matter how many times you ask, demand or otherwise say the same thing over and over and over again. Our policy is simply that we don't, and to be fair you only have access to enough information to speculate.
I'm not claiming. I'm stating outright that customer data was never at risk. We've also said there will be a blog which will detail what occurred and what was wrong.
It doesnt matter. The public image you have created is that you **** over the whistleblower, while claiming everything is allright.
and put their ame on the name filter like ********** - four years plus later and you STILL ban the use of his name? why is that? Isnt that a LITTLE childish guys? ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
If you don't like it, stop paying.
No?
nice 180 there... from rabblerouser to kiss ass in .5 sec ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sreegs
I don't blog about forums so lets see where the investigation takes us and we'll figure out if you have a reason to be mad at me after I've actually finished the work :)
you realize yer talking in circles right? You earlier stated it was a security issue that brought down the forums and now youre saying you dont blog about forums. That blog is gonna be pretty thin then if its not about this fiasco. ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bomberlocks And if he posts his chat logs?
gets banned for posting GM communications?
Im guessing he cant say anything like he gets IMs from players cause that player/GM interaction wall breach was part of the issue in T20
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 18:25:00 -
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so miilla, what did they give you to turn you into a CCP kiss ass?
cause you used to be a rabblerouser lie the rest of us, now all you do in troll us and kiss CCP's ass. ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod so miilla, what did they give you to turn you into a CCP kiss ass?
cause you used to be a rabblerouser lie the rest of us, now all you do in troll us and kiss CCP's ass.
I don't take sides :)
yeah sure you dont lol how much isk or PLEX did it take? lol ---------------------------- fail leads to anger anger leads to hate hate leads to the dark side of MMOs |

Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 19:04:25 Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 19:01:55
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod so miilla, what did they give you to turn you into a CCP kiss ass?
cause you used to be a rabblerouser lie the rest of us, now all you do in troll us and kiss CCP's ass.
It's called not acting like a teenager...which I'm shocked that Miilla isn't doing so, but whatever....
You can disagree, but doing so in the manner many posters do on these forums is juvenile and frankly a lot of people around here need to grow the **** up and act like adults for once in their lives. Being a complete ass because it makes you look kewl in the internet, and there's no one sitting there to punch you in the face is just ****ing stupid.
Yes and you look all the more grown up the more **** you can inject into your statement
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau I like Sreegs, epic forum warrior willing to school the usual EVE trolls. Keep it up mate.
In other news, I have made this sig to commemorate CCP's epic achievements over the last few days. Feel free to use it yourself, it's for all of EVE community, not just me.
lol
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Furb Killer So let me get this straight: pointing out security flaws the size of the hole in the WTC and, granted, exploiting them a bit for the lulz (without afaik doing any serious damage, considering what he could have done with it and notifying you so it could be fixed), results in an account ban + IP ban. Meanwhile abusing exploits in the game client and rampant botting (often a combination of those two) is perfectly fine?
Pointing out means TELLING us about it, he went beyond that, he EXPLOITED the vulnerability for his own gain (ego).
ah I se so long as you dont tell anyone or stroke yer ego over it, you can exploit as much as you want lol
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
lol umad? 
lol 13 year old response from the guy crying how everyone else should be more mature?
no, not mad, pointing out funny ironies, and hippocracy apparently
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson I feel a little bad for flaming CCP Sreegs, it really isn't his fault. But you know me, I get all worked up and stuff.
re: bannings.
I do think the ban is appropriate, whereas I only verified it was possible, I didn't go and USE the exploit. I blew the whistle instead, which was the right thing to do.
whaaaaaaat helicity with a conscience? Tell me you got hacked an this really isnt you
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 21:18:00 -
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Funny thing about the deliver now patch later thing. Eventually, ppl stop paying for crap.
Then how do you deliver when noone's buying your product?
and before you start on something about M$, CCP aint M$ and Im talking about CCP
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Are you still running Windows? Did you eventually stop paying for crap? I'm guessing NO :) I didn't either. The difference between me and you is I am not full of bull****, I know bull**** when I see it but speak it straight up and bluntly.
try reading the second half of my statement please... the part where I told you NOT to bring up microsoft cause CCP AINT M$
And yea, I know bull**** too and its in like every troll I see you try kiss CCPs ass some more lol
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 10/04/2011 22:03:39
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
Originally by: Miilla
Are you still running Windows? Did you eventually stop paying for crap? I'm guessing NO :) I didn't either. The difference between me and you is I am not full of bull****, I know bull**** when I see it but speak it straight up and bluntly.
try reading the second half of my statement please... the part where I told you NOT to bring up microsoft cause CCP AINT M$
And yea, I know bull**** too and its in like every troll I see you try kiss CCPs ass some more lol
Different in name I agree yes.
So, if you stopped paying for crap, why are you still here? That part I don't understand. Please explain.
k, I didnt know that when you stopped paying they cut off your game and forum access instantly oh wait they dont lol troll more buddy
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:08:00 -
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Yeah I actually agree. Itd show the ppl actually quitting vs those that put up those bull**** "IM RAGEQUITTING QQQQQQQQQ" threads then spend the next two years posting lol
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 22:12:11
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod Yeah I actually agree. Itd show the ppl actually quitting vs those that put up those bull**** "IM RAGEQUITTING QQQQQQQQQ" threads then spend the next two years posting lol
So why are you still here?
When did I say "IM RAGEQUITTING QQQQQQQQQ" Cause I dont think I did, I just said I stopped PAYING for the game. I can still play fine till my time runs out lol
and Im still HERE as apparently trollery isnt against the rules here cause if it was you and I both would be banned
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 10/04/2011 22:14:07
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod Yeah I actually agree. Itd show the ppl actually quitting vs those that put up those bull**** "IM RAGEQUITTING QQQQQQQQQ" threads then spend the next two years posting lol
So why are you still here?
When did I say "IM RAGEQUITTING QQQQQQQQQ" Cause I dont think I did, I just said I stopped PAYING for the game. I can still play fine till my time runs out lol
You still paid.
Please tell us when your time runs out, I want to check your gone.
so.... if you EVER paid you cant say that ppl will stop paying for the product? by that logic ppl are still playing Hellgate london
Id ask why are you still here but I already know the answer: you get paid for it: as evidenced by your overnight 180 lol
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Erichk Knaar
Originally by: Miilla
Sounds like something they should do, when customers cancel their accounts, cut off their forum posting rights too.
Don't want ghost posting eh.
Oh lordy, I'm agreeing with it.
Funny how I agreed an its still trollin me lol
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
You don't understand trolling do you.
Guess not as yer sposed to be ****in me ofs but all yer doin is making me laugh lol
so who fails in that case? Guess its both of us lol
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata
*puts up a sticker of troll warning*
Is it still trolling if you fail to **** ppl off and just babble about gobs and stuff? lol
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.10 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
Originally by: Calathea Sata
*puts up a sticker of troll warning*
Is it still trolling if you fail to **** ppl off and just babble about gobs and stuff? lol
What is that on your head? Looks like a dead skunk.
Is that REALLY what youve been reduced to? roflmao
Take 15 minutes off an come up with something good please
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.11 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Linda Shadowborn
Originally by: Helicity Boson Edited by: Helicity Boson on 10/04/2011 14:54:40 You're also being lied to.
While your customer data over at CCP was indeed safe, the new forums put everyone that visited them at risk.
Saying we were completely safe is, demonstrably, FALSE.
I've written up a blog post on the subject here: http://www.machine9.net/blog/?p=592
After posting this, I suspect this will mean goodbye for me, so let me just preemptively state that I will miss you all, and for all your flaws you ARE the best game community in the world.
*internet hugs for that*
lol tho; even CCP doesnt dare **** with Helicity Boson
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.11 16:57:00 -
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hey Yuki Kulotsuki,
whats the alliance?
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.11 22:36:00 -
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Apparently they chose to publish the CSM blog over his blog lol
that strikes me as damn funny
Like even they dont give a **** about informing us to what happened cause we already KNOW thanks to Helicity Boson
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.11 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod Apparently they chose to publish the CSM blog over his blog lol
that strikes me as damn funny
Like even they dont give a **** about informing us to what happened cause we already KNOW thanks to Helicity Boson
I just had it published...
link lol I dont see it in the info portal or does it take time to get put in there?
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.11 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: CCP Sreegs
I just had it published...
It lacks an overly optimistic estimate of when the new forums will make their grand return. 
Not my department. :)
CCP isn't that big! That department must be like 15 feet from you. Go over there and ask you lazy bum!
roflmao!!! yeah! Throw a damn paper airplane even!
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.04.11 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Sreegs
It's 23:30 at night.
send em an IM or a phone call
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